tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post205379715293799308..comments2024-03-28T17:50:54.630-07:00Comments on Deity Shmeity: This.Grundyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-31170181386435597512012-08-05T14:41:35.462-07:002012-08-05T14:41:35.462-07:00Hey you too bro. It's been fun. Hava good one!...Hey you too bro. It's been fun. Hava good one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-35590266966546904882012-08-05T13:44:48.991-07:002012-08-05T13:44:48.991-07:00...
I'll pass on the audio. Thanks for the ve......<br /><br />I'll pass on the audio. Thanks for the very interesting discussion. I honestly had no idea anyone believed all that.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-49313791539741222262012-08-05T13:31:14.801-07:002012-08-05T13:31:14.801-07:00"That's not a good enough reason, it'..."That's not a good enough reason, it's a confirmation bias. Now how does one distinguish between all this? Here's a hint "resurrection". There are various ways but an audio discussion would be a better way for me to explain."<br />>>><br /><br />Another interesting fact is the foreknowledge of the Bible and it's cosmology. All the ancient cosmologies Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-43524501822197650702012-08-05T13:14:34.325-07:002012-08-05T13:14:34.325-07:00Grundy,
Good afternoon to ya. None of what you sa...Grundy,<br /><br />Good afternoon to ya. None of what you said changes anything on the Bible and it's claims. To let you know, some of these people do in fact believe they're getting help from the "other side" (or from entities e. g. "Ascended Masters" or other spirits, I don't agree with their explanation however) and others just don't recognize it as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-86416752346241795322012-08-05T11:36:46.407-07:002012-08-05T11:36:46.407-07:00Razor, since you believe in telekinesis, remote vi...Razor, since you believe in telekinesis, remote viewing and a variety of other supernatural occurrences that are carried out by people who don't claim divine power--doesn't this marginalize Jesus and other Biblical miracles? I mean, if God's chosen aren't the only ones who can perform acts outside of nature...how can be sure of anything? If it is proven that the supernatural Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-54303755861476306582012-08-05T02:49:19.178-07:002012-08-05T02:49:19.178-07:00"Second, the shroud had actually been vacuume..."Second, the shroud had actually been vacuumed -bad move to do so- before which would have moved the original DNA."<br />>>><br /><br />Correction: removed (not moved). I wish one could do better editing on here. Where's your suggestion box Blogger?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-65393421772831190852012-08-05T02:45:16.157-07:002012-08-05T02:45:16.157-07:00"“That which can be presented without evidenc..."“That which can be presented without evidence can be easily dismissed.” <br />>>><br /><br />No evidence has been presented for that statement ^ so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-22971780104350941212012-08-05T02:40:54.078-07:002012-08-05T02:40:54.078-07:00"You would have to define “miracle” here..&qu..."You would have to define “miracle” here.."<br />>>><br /><br />That which defies the natural world and scientific laws. I could look up a dictionary to find a better definition but I'm getting tired and I'm too lazy hehe. <br /><br />"… I guess my point here is that you make a lot of claims of things being “paranormal” and supernatural, but there really isn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-10970609969167221222012-08-05T02:28:50.156-07:002012-08-05T02:28:50.156-07:00"2. So, unidentified flying object is synonym..."2. So, unidentified flying object is synonymous with the “paranormal?” I'm sorry, but because we see something and don't know what it is, is no reason to jump to paranormal."<br />>>><br /><br />At this point, in my opinion, the better answer is the paranormal for various reasons. Many of these UFOs (and the "rods" phenomenon) seem to pop in and out of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-34135356349591897572012-08-05T02:12:52.077-07:002012-08-05T02:12:52.077-07:00"“Whether you believe it exists or not, is fr..."“Whether you believe it exists or not, is frankly not relevant to the issue. “ This is true.. However, as Hippocrates once said, “ Men think epilepsy divine, merely because they do not understand it. We will one day understand what causes it, and then cease to call it divine."<br />>>><br /><br />So for now, we'll just call it "naturalism in the gaps"...nice a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-47101444841742628972012-08-05T02:09:40.864-07:002012-08-05T02:09:40.864-07:00"4. Nina Kulagina. Don't really know much..."4. Nina Kulagina. Don't really know much about her either, but this is what wiki has to say on those that are skeptical. “Many skeptical individuals and organizations, such as the James Randi Educational Foundation and the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims on the Paranormal (CICAP) express strong skepticism regarding the truth of these claims."<br />>>><br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-5468912721362705192012-08-05T02:01:08.408-07:002012-08-05T02:01:08.408-07:00"1. The Shroud of Turin. You are kidding righ..."1. The Shroud of Turin. You are kidding right? This has already been found to be a hoax. Carbon dating puts it nowhere close to near the time of Christ. It puts it during the middle ages. In fact, there are even a few theories as to how it was made, such as acid pigmitation. See the wiki article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin"<br />>>><br /><br />No, are you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-72465056502543424912012-08-04T19:48:15.693-07:002012-08-04T19:48:15.693-07:006. You would have to define “miracle” here.. “Mira...6. You would have to define “miracle” here.. “Miracle cures” have been around forever. One thing that might be noted about miracles, is that they've seemed to have gotten much, much lamer as time goes by. God went from smiting cities, to raising zombies, to now appearing on toast. Another thing that I've noticed is that the things people “miraculously recover from” seem to coincide a lot JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-46118287996875904262012-08-04T19:47:46.493-07:002012-08-04T19:47:46.493-07:00Because something is written in a book, doesn'...Because something is written in a book, doesn't make it true. When stories in the Bible start to seem silly, or evidence arises that shows that they aren't real, they always seem to become “metaphors.” Two quick examples; “the worldwide flood genocide myth,” which Egypt seemed to not have even noticed has become a metaphor, even though it sounds like Jesus believed it himself. (http://JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-46938622611498435382012-08-04T11:58:22.797-07:002012-08-04T11:58:22.797-07:00"Here are some examples of the paranormal whe..."Here are some examples of the paranormal where naturalism takes a back seat in understanding.<br /><br />1. The Shroud Of Turin<br /><br />2. 1-3 mile wide UFOs show up on NASA video footage from Shuttle Columbia’s camera. It was the STS: 75 Mission in 1996, famously known as “The Tether Incident”.<br /><br />3. The 1917 Fatima Portugal incident. There were over 70,000 simultaneous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-71763867603657988652012-08-04T11:57:00.304-07:002012-08-04T11:57:00.304-07:00"I don't have any reason to believe the s..."I don't have any reason to believe the supernatural is a category that exists."<br />>>><br /><br />Whether you believe it exists or not, is frankly not relevant to the issue. The fact that you take a stance against the supernatural and make rebuttals via science (which is where you, and naturalists go wrong) is where the problem lies. On a side note, I already gave you a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-64943064703780705762012-08-04T07:12:34.942-07:002012-08-04T07:12:34.942-07:00Wait...what?Wait...what?Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-67027899363926274372012-08-04T07:02:36.884-07:002012-08-04T07:02:36.884-07:00I don't have any reason to believe the superna...I don't have any reason to believe the supernatural <i>is</i> a category that exists.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-10479078915174639772012-08-04T07:00:57.342-07:002012-08-04T07:00:57.342-07:00Don't be sorry, that's good stuff.Don't be sorry, that's good stuff.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-30699512964926696812012-08-03T15:13:21.558-07:002012-08-03T15:13:21.558-07:00I thought that I'd comment on your profile pic...I thought that I'd comment on your profile picture. I hate religion too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-13238691756742283942012-08-03T14:33:24.797-07:002012-08-03T14:33:24.797-07:00"Walking on water" and other miracle cla..."Walking on water" and other miracle claims have never really been proven on investigation."<br />>>><br /><br />When you say "proven", by what method are you using to prove something real or not? If it's the scientific method, how does the natural explain the supernatural? Again, we're back at category error. While there is data for the paranormal, but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-13990936253938958282012-08-03T13:51:23.341-07:002012-08-03T13:51:23.341-07:00"Walking on water" and other miracle cla..."Walking on water" and other miracle claims have never really been proven on investigation. The claims of the Bible are interesting, since you would think that a man going around and doing all these miracles, worldwide earthquakes following the sky being blotted out, and a town full the dead awakening like zombies would be documented elsewhere. <br /><br />When it comes to the "JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-28046682057839580832012-08-03T13:45:24.056-07:002012-08-03T13:45:24.056-07:00The problem with intelligent design is that it is ...The problem with intelligent design is that it is not a theory. There is no evidence supporting that stance. It's more of an "attack" on evolution. The only things that ever seem to be brought up are arguments like Irreducible complexity. "How did the flagellum come about since it can't be broken down?" We do now know how this could have come about now, and it is JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-87022163841844769022012-08-03T13:36:45.083-07:002012-08-03T13:36:45.083-07:00Certainly these phenomena would no longer be super...Certainly these phenomena would no longer be supernatural if a natural explanation were found. And I agree that science is limited in that it cannot directly access the supernatural, but I also think that scientists err when they allow their methodological naturalism to translate to metaphysical naturalism. For example, I think many scientists are quick to discount the findings of Intelligent Bobmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021459937110238083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-13443435422546314892012-08-03T13:20:56.452-07:002012-08-03T13:20:56.452-07:00The difference between faith and science, is that ...The difference between faith and science, is that science has falsifiable ideas based on evidence and reasoning. When an idea is tested and fails, then science backtracks and tries to come up with another explanation. Faith is just believing in stuff without evidence.JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.com