tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post4996745726580580840..comments2024-03-11T21:16:59.321-07:00Comments on Deity Shmeity: A God out of TimeGrundyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-86669327926800961362013-01-12T17:40:16.451-08:002013-01-12T17:40:16.451-08:00First point is great, but second starts with a fal...First point is great, but second starts with a false statement: "Second, I explain that time is literally a measure of existence.". Time is just a unit of measure humans have assigned (approximately) to the time it takes our planet to revolve on it's own axis. Our "time system" is not accurate, our watches and clocks run on a 24 hour day system, whereas a day (one completeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-40286547580272111192013-01-10T16:31:19.145-08:002013-01-10T16:31:19.145-08:00I like the Rev verse too. Apparently heaven isn...I like the Rev verse too. Apparently heaven isn't "outside of time."Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-17422894347758966542013-01-10T16:30:31.931-08:002013-01-10T16:30:31.931-08:00I makes perfect sense to them. :-)I makes perfect sense to them. :-)Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-14969132974203584632013-01-10T11:21:18.340-08:002013-01-10T11:21:18.340-08:00Well done. Time is such an important concept to th...Well done. Time is such an important concept to the whole god debate that I think many theists struggle with, if they even acknowledge it as a problem. <br /><br />I also agree with TWF---I too cringe when I hear things like "god is outside of time". I have to wonder if they even understand what that implies. I also have to wonder if they are familiar with the 'argument from ReasonBeinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07069408274720666142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-85532433572190932742013-01-09T19:06:16.861-08:002013-01-09T19:06:16.861-08:00Good call on the Revelations verse. I went and mad...Good call on the Revelations verse. I went and made a note in my Bible. <br /><br />Hausdorff, I've had the same experiences talking with Christians when they get into a corner. I admit that when I didn't understand stuff about God when I was younger, I did the same thing. "Maybe I just don't get it." The descriptions are physical descriptions, but then we're told that JKerberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334114886976784914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-68919941506275089242013-01-09T08:33:20.055-08:002013-01-09T08:33:20.055-08:00Yeah, I hate that "outside of time" thin...Yeah, I hate that "outside of time" thing. I'm not even convinced it makes any sense at all, and I don't think most Christians even have a good idea of what it means, they say things like that to shut down the conversation. It's more like "God is mysterious and we can't comprehend him, so shut up". Hausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-8275082505147075012013-01-09T05:42:17.975-08:002013-01-09T05:42:17.975-08:00Great paradoxes! I hadn't thought of the aspe...Great paradoxes! I hadn't thought of the aspects God's free will or God's learning before.<br /><br />I <i><b>cringe</b></i> every time I hear a Christian say something like "<i>God is outside of time.</i>" I have two standard replies:<br /><br />First, jab 'em with the Scripture; Revelation 8:1<br /><i>When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence <b>in heaven TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.com