tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post594609610475712173..comments2024-03-11T21:16:59.321-07:00Comments on Deity Shmeity: The Twofold Problem of FairnessGrundyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-49343103504503345202013-01-22T06:55:38.768-08:002013-01-22T06:55:38.768-08:00If this doesn’t apply to your faith, great. I cove...If this doesn’t apply to your faith, great. I cover a lot of topics here, some specifically Catholic, some fundamentalist, and some vague when I don’t know which faiths believe what. There are a lot of religions out there.<br /><br />I know what you mean about the moral sense. There is always more we can do to help, but I also think most people would shut down if they spent every waking hour in Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-4528049895404482952013-01-21T15:59:16.996-08:002013-01-21T15:59:16.996-08:00It does seem like most of your arguments are again...It does seem like most of your arguments are against fundamentalism and not against Christianity in general. Catholicism does not have an issue with kids in India. Partly because there are millions of Catholics in India but also because Catholicism teaches that salvation is possible outside of an explicit connection with the church. That is you could respond to God's grace without actually Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16751516602395247675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-91797984415329043192013-01-16T06:11:32.174-08:002013-01-16T06:11:32.174-08:00Thanks! That's kind of you to say so.Thanks! That's kind of you to say so.Paul Sunstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462598852553696040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-15566149119297655402013-01-16T05:55:00.788-08:002013-01-16T05:55:00.788-08:00I love the comparison to those email scamsI love the comparison to those email scamsHausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-70209409126413195032013-01-16T03:57:40.566-08:002013-01-16T03:57:40.566-08:00In a way, Christianity does make sense. That is, ...In a way, Christianity does make sense. That is, it's like one of those emails from Liberia that promise outrageous rewards, tell a somewhat incoherent story, present little or no hard evidence of their truth, and end up being a scam. (In the case of the email, the reward is tens of millions of dollar. In the case of Christianity, the reward is salvation from hell.) The reward is so greatPaul Sunstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462598852553696040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-80860936121149673492013-01-16T03:47:27.860-08:002013-01-16T03:47:27.860-08:00Your statements remind me of the Christians who cl...Your statements remind me of the Christians who claim that any breech of the Ten Commandments, no matter how slight or insignificant, justifies eternal torture.Paul Sunstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462598852553696040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-79071565337340537282013-01-15T12:09:12.832-08:002013-01-15T12:09:12.832-08:00I agree. It is a problem that Christianity in par...I agree. It is a problem that Christianity in particular must deal with, and in my view, I haven't seen an effective treatment of this problem yet.ReasonBeinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07069408274720666142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-29254139029445072142013-01-15T06:16:30.557-08:002013-01-15T06:16:30.557-08:00He was in great peril!
http://www.youtube.com/wat...He was in great peril!<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjio-F47IfM#t=4m15sHausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-67891439135465871122013-01-15T05:55:59.907-08:002013-01-15T05:55:59.907-08:00The other answer is that we are all constantly exp...The other answer is that we are all constantly exposed to sin and all sins are equal. So if someone is pressured into gang life while someone else has a hot girl move in next door, the eventual sin of murder and lust are equal so, "fair."Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-1455079535049988402013-01-15T05:50:37.519-08:002013-01-15T05:50:37.519-08:00I always found it interesting that Christianity do...I always found it interesting that Christianity doesn't take "moral luck" (people being randomly thrown into situations where moral behavior is easy or hard) into consideration. When I asked a Christian why God puts some people in situations where it's very hard to be moral, he gave me the stock answer: that God is testing those people. Which leads to the question of why God Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-75446758948807463372013-01-15T04:49:08.609-08:002013-01-15T04:49:08.609-08:00All great questions that I think most kids have......All great questions that I think most kids have...but I guess most forget about them.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-26090654854314207892013-01-15T04:48:11.452-08:002013-01-15T04:48:11.452-08:00The perfect God is a hard one to defend. If they w...The perfect God is a hard one to defend. If they would just downgrade their deity some, their arguments would make a little more sense.Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339125862340793733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-92114524395593895322013-01-14T11:06:05.821-08:002013-01-14T11:06:05.821-08:00I do enjoy the arguments about evil, seriously I a...I do enjoy the arguments about evil, seriously I actually enjoy them...but you're right, they never go anywhere. It is like hitting a wall, to use the popular expression. <br /><br />I also think that the notion of your Indian kid is a great example of where the Christian concept of god goes wrong. Of course, people like WLC have their answers for this too, but like the others, they are ReasonBeinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07069408274720666142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-40585459238914073572013-01-14T10:36:31.401-08:002013-01-14T10:36:31.401-08:00You have to remember though, fairness doesn't ...You have to remember though, fairness doesn't matter in Christian theology. We're all born sinful and deserve to burn forever, nothing we do makes a difference, you cannot possibly be good enough to override your evil nature. You have to ask Jesus for forgiveness and if you do, no matter what you've done wrong, gets wiped away.<br /><br />So being good really doesn't mean a damnCephushttp://bitchspot.jadedragononline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217153430513050163.post-86223858154329140782013-01-14T06:36:07.416-08:002013-01-14T06:36:07.416-08:00Your example of the Indian kid is something I thou...Your example of the Indian kid is something I thought about when I was struggling with my religion. In my church, there was much talk about mission trips to help spread the word. Those people aren't as lucky as us to be born into the correct religion. When I was younger this all seemed reasonable, but at some point I put myself in the shoes of the other people and realized how incredibly Hausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.com